110grn V-Max for varminting

[300WSM]

Hey guys I am new to this site but not new to shooting. I live in California and love to hunt Coyotes and Squirrels. I love shooting squirrels at long range. It's a real challenge and I enjoy it very much. I shoot many cartridges for varminting from .22 cal to 6mm cal. My latest varmint rifle is a Match Chambered, .337 Tight Neck 300 WSM with a Nesika Model K Acion, 30" 1-15 twist Bartlien barrel throated for the 110grn V-Max and 125grn BT bullet, Richard's #8 stock, Jewel trigger, Nightforce 8x32x56mm NXS scope, ect. I will be using 110grn V-Max bullets for varminting out to around 600 yards max. I was wondering, do any of you guys use this bullet?

300WSM

[Darrel in Minn]

Looks like you are using enough gun. I like the .22 centerfires the best, followed by my .17 Remington. Darrel

[Oleman]

With the 110 V-max at 600 yards you pushing it. You really need a bullet with a higher BC. I'd be looking for something more along the lines of the 155 gr. A-max with a BC 170 higher than the 110 gr bullet about 58% more efficient.

[LanceInOregon]

how do i have a foul mouth. because i dropped the F bomb once describing it does to a critter.

in this day and age with what is on TV, and what is said in public, if you have a problem with hearing the F bomb then you should just stay inside, and cut off all communication to the outdoor world.

its not even like i used it in even a slightly derrogitory way.

Every action is relevant to the venue that that it takes place in. You would not use such language in a church, an elementary school, or even most business offices. If others have taken offense, then the right thing to do is to apologize for offending them. It is not making excuses, or blaming them for being too sensitive.

On the the other hand, though, I'm not sure how this relates to this particular thread. It sounds like this controversy may be referring to a different post. If that is the case, and folks want to publicly follow up on this subject, it should be done in a separate discussion, and not interjected into this thread. For it confuses this whole discussion.

At least that is my opinion regarding this matter.

[300WSM]

Hey guys, I don't want this post to be hi-jacked. I think we can all agree to not to use the F-Bomb again. I would like to keep on topic and hear from guys wo are using this bullet.

Regarding a higher BC bullet, I know they would be better for long range shots, but I want to use the 110grn V-Max for varminting. I will be pushing them very fast, around 3900fps, so that should help the performance issue out to 600 yards. The higher BC bullets don't provide the same show. I am willing to give up BC for splat factor. I don't mind turning my widage knob, that's why I got the Nightforce NXS Scope and the MLR reticle. Anyhow, most of the varmining will be done from 400 to 600 yards, so the 110grn V-Max should work.

3WSM

[MTGunner]

Interesting post I might ad. After reading your post, plus the banter regarding poor choice of language, I looked into my bullet cache only to discover some 110gr. Sierra HP bullets. I have no idea where I came up with them. Anyway, I am waiting foir my Rem. 700, SPS SS, in 300WSM to arrive at my local gunstore. You certainly have stirred my interest in this cartridge combination. I went to my Nosler manual and do believe that you have a great long range critter gitter arrangement. Particularly if your bbl. has short enough throat to justify the 110 & 125gr. bullets. Nosler lists VV N550 and IMR 4350 as two powders of merit. I will be looking for your future post on this matter. BMX'er, this is not a forum for poor choices of language. 300WSM posted a question of particular interest and you are doing nothing but stirring up trouble. Please take it elsewhere. This is not the forum for any foul language.

[300WSM]

MTGunner, yes it should be a very deadly varmint rig out to 600 yards with the 110grn V-Max bullets. This set up can shoot the 110grn V-Max's at over 4000+fps, however, I am going to keep the velocity at around 3900fps. This speed will allow for more brass and barrel life. I am sure I will try some at the 4000+fps mark, but 3900fps will be fast enough. Even though the 110grn V-Max BC is not that great, .290 BC at 3900fps helps with the low BC. I look forward to shooting her soon. I should receive the rifle in about two weeks.

300WSM

[Redneckbmxer24]

Hey guys, I don't want this post to be hi-jacked. I think we can all agree to not to use the F-Bomb again. I would like to keep on topic and hear from guys wo are using this bullet.

Regarding a higher BC bullet, I know they would be better for long range shots, but I want to use the 110grn V-Max for varminting. I will be pushing them very fast, around 3900fps, so that should help the performance issue out to 600 yards. The higher BC bullets don't provide the same show. I am willing to give up BC for splat factor. I don't mind turning my widage knob, that's why I got the Nightforce NXS Scope and the MLR reticle. Anyhow, most of the varmining will be done from 400 to 600 yards, so the 110grn V-Max should work.

3WSM

with your setup, the slightly different bullet construction between the lightweight 30 cal bullets metioned is going to make no difference in the devastation it does to a critter. whats doing the devastation is the weight of the 30 cal bullet moving really fast, thats whats going to provide blood n guts, the little ammount that one bullet may come apart a little faster than another wont be that big of a deal.

the lower BC bullet may also cause you to lose more velocity out at those further distances. and also what good is having a really fast bullet if you can only get MOA with it, before considering wind, shooting error, ect.

get a variety of the lightweight 30 cal's, find the ones that will shoot consistant sub 1/2MOA at 100 yards, then decide from there which one to use based on terminal performance, and BC.

that little sierra 110HP varminter is going to shoot accurate, and do hella damage on small game. the 110GR lapua is going to do the same.

[300WSM]

RedNeck,

Thanks for the info. Is there anyone else out there using this type of combo.

300WSM

[lamm1]

I've used the Sierra 110gr. hp in my 30/06. They work alright, don't group the greatest but will shoot MOA if I do my part. The best loads I found for my rifle was with Varget and H414. I like the Speer 130gr. HP's alot better- 1/2 MOA out to 300yds over 60.5gr. H414. My gun likes the Nosler 125's just as well as the Speer 130's.

[300WSM]

I am going to use the 110grn V-Max for shots out to 600 yards. However, for shots past 600 yards, I am going to use the 125grn Ballistic Tip. The 125 BT is performing really well out to 800 yards. I look forward to useing this combo on ground squirrels. I know, it's a lot of gun for such a small varmint but it's going to provide some awesome splat factor. Also, this rifle will be a low volume varmint rig, so I wont be shooting it 200 times a session. More like 50 to 60 times a varmint hunt. We go on about 10 varmint hunts a year.

300WSM

[Ackman]

Hey guys I am new to this site but not new to shooting. I live in California and love to hunt Coyotes and Squirrels. I love shooting squirrels at long range. It's a real challenge and I enjoy it very much. I shoot many cartridges for varminting from .22 cal to 6mm cal. My latest varmint rifle is a Match Chambered, .337 Tight Neck 300 WSM with a Nesika Model K Acion, 30" 1-15 twist Bartlien barrel throated for the 110grn V-Max and 125grn BT bullet, Richard's #8 stock, Jewel trigger, Nightforce 8x32x56mm NXS scope, ect. I will be using 110grn V-Max bullets for varminting out to around 600 yards max. I was wondering, do any of you guys use this bullet?

300WSM

The best way to find out is just buy some of those bullets and try them. The cost of a box of bullets is nothing. But using 65-70gr powder and a 110gr bullet on gophers that weigh less than a pound? Plus, those animals come in large quantity. And I don't know even one coyote hunter who'd want to use a gun like that. Sounds like a nice rifle and you're probably anxious to use it on something. But for shooting squirrels and coyotes I think it would be a real poor choice.

Addition: The 125BT will kill a 12oz groundsquirrel ok, but those larger caliber ballistic tips aren't explosive varmint bullets, they're for hunting.

[Catfish]

I used to load varmint bullets for the .30-06, but the litest I was able to get any accuracy past 100 yrds. with was the 130 gn. Speer. Since you`ve built a rifle for lite bullets, I hope with a very slow twist since you`ll be useing lite bullets, I can only see 1 possible problem. Will the bullets hold to gether at those velosites????? I shoot a .22-6mm and the 75 gn. Hornady HP`s blow apart with it. I`m afraid you may have that problem with a 110 bullet at 3,900 fps. It should have a real splatter effect if the bullets hold together to the target.:D

[Clem in San Dog]

Hey 300WSM, I've used that bullet with great success in two different .308 Winchesters (Both Rem 700 Heavy Barrels), one of which shot a group of about .3 inches at 100 yards, my best ever. I've also popped a bunch of California Saber Tooth Ground Squirrels with that bullet. My loads were only going out at around 3100 fps or so, but very accurate, with the longest kill around 450 yards.

I also want to try the 110 Vmax in a 300 WSM, and crank up the speeds. I think it would be an awesome varmint rig, but I wouldn't consider doing it without a two step recoil reduction plan, to enjoy thecarnage through the scope. First and foremost: a Vais muzzle brake. Then I'd drop the rig into an Axiom recoil absorbing stock..now there is an awesome rig!

A word of caution, before you spend too much time wit the 110 grain Vmax, be sure you are not in the Condor Reintroduction zone, since on July 1st in California, those areas will require non-lead bullets for all hunting. My next choice: the Barnes 147 grain MPG bullet. Check it out!

Clem

[300WSM]

Clem, I have a two point recoil reduction plan, Vias Muzzle brake and the rifle will weigh in at 24 pounds. Regarding the Condor deal, I think I will be ok. I hope.

I am really looking forward to shooting this rifle. It's being built by Richard Franklin of Richard Custom Rifles. The rifle is called the 300 Varminter. the chamber is a Match Chamber with .337 tight neck. It should really provide some RED MIST out to 500 yards.

300WSM

[Stormbringer]

I have used the 110 vmax in a 30.06 with good results. I could not get the vmax to group well in my 308 or 300 wsm.

Both rifles do group the 125 btips very well. I hate to disagree with my shooting buddy ackman but I have had good terminal performance on 200 or so chucks I have shot with the 125 btips out of the 308.

Mike

[300WSM]

My rifle is finally done and shipped. If you would like to see a picture, go to "Richard's Custom Rifles" web page. It's the Rifle with the Black stock, Muzzle brake and Nightforce NXS Scope. Richard informed me the rifle weighs right at 25 pounds with scope. I will be able to use it with a bi-pod too. Richard installed an adjustable front stud in the forend of the stock for the bi-pod use. I will post results as soon as I get her at the range and on the California Grizzle Squirrel.

This is off topic, but I like this site much better than some of the other sites. Other sites have guys on them that want to attack a build just because it's not like theirs or because you don't use a high BC, VLD type bullet. I love VLD bullets, but I don't like using them for varmint hunting. If I shoot past 800 yards, I will use a VLD bullet. But anything from 50 to 800 yards, I will always choose the V-Max, Ballistic Tip or Blitzking type of bullets.
I want to see RED MIST, and I don't want a bullet to ricochet.

300WSM

[AVanGorder]

RedNeck,

Thanks for the info. Is there anyone else out there using this type of combo.

300WSM

Probably not. But, there are plenty of people shooting 115 - 118 bullets out of 30BRs at distances.

You already built your gun around the 110, so, just take it out and shoot it. Look at all the people shooting prairie dogs at that distance with 223s.

[300WSM]

I received my rifle today. WOW!!! what an awesome rifle. I have had many custom rifles built in the past, but this rifle by far is the best one I have ever owned.* The workmenship is absolutely the best I have ever seen. The rifle is beautiful and ready to start destroying the squirrels out at the 600 yard mark and beyond. Should be a real super accurate rifle and cartridge combo. Richard Franklin of Richard Custom Rifles built it and specializes in long range varmint rifles. Look at his web page and give him a ring if you decided to build a custom long range varmint rig. I can't wait to see what the 110grn V-Max does to a ground squirrel. At 4000fps, it should provide a red mist splat factor like nothing ever seen before.

300WSM

[Oleman]

Look familiar?

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o155/Oleman_photos/LOMBARDO20002.jpg

[300WSM]

No, mine is the Black rifle with the Nightforce NXS scope.

[Jeff_8]

I use the 110 grain V-Max in a 300 Whisper, I used it on rabbits this week when the 222 had problems. They work great, I might not use the 222 anymore.

Jeff