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charlie sterner
01-13-2007, 11:54 AM
I can't believe our supplier (Jerry's) doesn't carry the Lee Resizing Lube that comes highly recommended for bullet waxing. Are there any other products that one can use for waxing bullets? Was thinking of maybe trying TC Bore butter, or even imperial sizing wax? Yeah, I could order Lee lube from online, but it'll be $10 for a $2 item with shipping. Looking for something more readily available.

Charlie

kim
01-13-2007, 11:24 PM
first became vouge, I bought all the stuff to do it and the guy I bought it from, recommended, after the moly, dumping the bullets into corncob media, treated with carnuba wax and tumbling for a few minutes. The idea was to coat the bullets with wax to keep the moly from rubbing off. After I got over moly coating and read about waxing bullets, I threw some in the tumbler with the wax treated cob and tumbled them for about 15 minutes, shazam, instant carnuba waxed bullets. You might try it.


Molon Labe

Kim

doc
01-14-2007, 09:34 AM
Midway has a sale on Lee Resizing Lube for $2 + and of course there is shipping.
On the other hand, why use it at all? I put my bullets in the viabrater with some moly for about 1 1/2 hrs with no other media other than a little moly. I then put them in with some corn cob media for about a minute. They come out nice and shinny and clean. Been doing this for five years with no problems.

Ackman
01-14-2007, 10:50 AM
The thing about Lee Lube is, there's really nothing else like it. And it works. If you have to mailorder, lots of suppliers sell it. If you're worried about shipping cost on just one tube, there must be something else you need that would fill out an order. Best to get several tubes anyway. Once you find out how well that stuff works you'll be using it on every bullet, and also for case lubing which takes a lot more. Mixed with water and microwaved into a thick liquid, it works well for neckturning.

T.D.C.
01-14-2007, 02:12 PM
Charlie, where are you at. I need to round out a $25.00 order at Midway and I could parcel post the Lee Lube after I get my order. I just cant stand to pay the extra $3.00 for a small order. Lemmie know,.

T.D.C.

yotebuster
01-14-2007, 07:17 PM
not to steal the post, But how are you guys applying the Lee lube to the bullets and getting them ready for reloading?? I have a tube and would like to try for my Mach IV on some 20 gr Vmax bullets.

charlie sterner
01-15-2007, 08:51 AM
The thing about Lee Lube is, there's really nothing else like it. And it works. If you have to mailorder, lots of suppliers sell it. If you're worried about shipping cost on just one tube, there must be something else you need that would fill out an order. Best to get several tubes anyway. Once you find out how well that stuff works you'll be using it on every bullet, and also for case lubing which takes a lot more. Mixed with water and microwaved into a thick liquid, it works well for neckturning.

There's LOTS I need, just didn't want to go spending a lot right now. I found another supplier, we can get it into the shop.

charlie sterner
01-15-2007, 08:52 AM
Charlie, where are you at. I need to round out a $25.00 order at Midway and I could parcel post the Lee Lube after I get my order. I just cant stand to pay the extra $3.00 for a small order. Lemmie know,.

T.D.C.

thanks for the offer, but I have some coming from another supplier. You'd probably end up spending the same amount shipping to me anyway.

Charlie

charlie sterner
01-15-2007, 08:54 AM
not to steal the post, But how are you guys applying the Lee lube to the bullets and getting them ready for reloading?? I have a tube and would like to try for my Mach IV on some 20 gr Vmax bullets.


Waxing bullets is as follows:

You need a wide mouth plastic jug like mayonnaise comes in that restaurants use or a plastic one gallon tea jug that is round.

Squirt the first joint of your index finger full of Wax.
Smear the wax all along the insides of the jug.
Put in 100-200 bullets in the jug and screw the lid on.
Next swirl the bullets around the outside edges of the jug like in a centrifuge.
Dump the bullets on a paper towel and separate them from touching each other.

What you want to see is the bullets having a dull milky color with out big globs of wax on them.

If you are in a hurry to load the bullets, put the paper towel in the frig and in about 30 minutes the bullets will be done (the wax has to set up on the bullets).

The wax lowers the pressure, so you will have to work up a load for the waxed bullets independent from the naked bullets.

charlie sterner
01-15-2007, 10:22 AM
I "waxed" a bunch of 25 gr Hornady 17 cal bullets yesterday with TC Bore Butter, and set them in the fridge to "set up" while I charged my cases. The bore butter waxing seems to help, at least better than naked bullets as far as fouling goes, and accuracy was under 1" at 100. ES and SD's were pretty good, (<50). I wish I had shot some naked bullets with those loads to compare naked vs. waxed. Maybe next time.

Charlie

Ackman
01-15-2007, 12:02 PM
not to steal the post, But how are you guys applying the Lee lube to the bullets and getting them ready for reloading?? I have a tube and would like to try for my Mach IV on some 20 gr Vmax bullets.

Any kind of a margarine tub or something like that will work. I use those rubbermaid tubs with a real strong snap on lid. The 1 pint size for 22cal and larger, the 8 oz size for 17. Put a fingerfull of lube in several places around the inside, then dump in a few hundred bullets and tumble.....turn the container over and over. After about 15-20 seconds you'll see just a thin milky film covering the sides of the tub. Don't swirl.....tumbling gets them coated much better.

Then keep the bullets stored in those same tubs. I label and stack them by caliber and weight.

Clint M
01-15-2007, 12:34 PM
I want to try some of the lee liquid alox to see if it will work the same as the resizing lube for coating. If anyone has already tried it and it does not work let me know

Clint

Dwayne TX
01-15-2007, 03:45 PM
I was wondering about the Alox, too. It's labeled for lead bullets, so I thought it stood to reason that it would work on others.

Jim in Idaho
01-15-2007, 11:42 PM
The only thing I don't like about the wax is the possibility of picking up microgrit and running it thru the bore on the bullets. This would probably only be possible in a hunting situation, where you have rounds in the magazine while out walking around. I think the wax precludes carrying rounds in your pocket, too. A good chance you'd rub the wax off. I wish there was a dry lube that worked as well.

TinMan
01-16-2007, 12:01 AM
Some people swear by Fastex, which is sold by board sponsor Northland Supply/Jim Briggs. It is more expensive and requires a mild heat to bond it to the bullet surface, I think 140°F. It claims to form a one-molecule thick dry film lube, and not build up in the bore. By the way, the Lee lube dries pretty thoroughly after a few hours and adheres well. Short of dropping some rounds on the ground, I wouldn't worry too much about picking up dirt.

gonedawgn
01-16-2007, 01:07 AM
Charlie,

I sell a kit to people I know and feel I know you from the board so here's the deal. Kit will handle up to 200 rounds of 20 or 224 caliber bullet. There is an option for larger calibers at extra cost.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a85/gonedawgn/Rogerwax1.jpg

Only $ 19.95 plus shipping. Order 2 or more and and shipping is free.:D

Or you can use a butter tub and do it all for nothing:eek:

Rick

PS: moly bullets are only an example my marketing manager isn't to bright.

Jim in Idaho
01-16-2007, 01:39 AM
I tried Fastex, but couldn't see much improvement in cleaning, or anything else. I know some people swear by it. That Lee lube is pretty soft, and it doesn't take much to pick up dust, etc. I've been using it, and I know it works, but I still think there's some chance of picking up grit. Plus you have to be more careful handling your ammo. Calling predators, you're always chambering, unchambering...maybe several times with the same loaded round. It's something to think about, anyway.

charlie sterner
01-16-2007, 10:01 AM
Only $ 19.95 plus shipping. Order 2 or more and and shipping is free.:D



I paid the piper and placed an order from Midway. Your post is a day too late! Maye next time you'll get my business! LOL

Charlie