10-22 target

[Bushrart]

I am thnking of a new toy, just how good does the factory, 10-22 target shoot?

[gonzo gunner]

you'll end up with alot of money in it if you are planning to shoot matches and still not win. for hunting and plinking they are ok. i'm not a 10/22 fan after having $1200 in one and still not anyplace near a savage markII bolt rifle.

there is a large following for the rifle. www.rimfirecentral.com will send you down the path toward what you'll end up doing to one to get as much out of it as you can.

[TXNinVA]

My 10/22T will hit a nickle at 50 yards all day, maybe even a dime. 3-9 scope, nothing fancy. I hunt varmint with it at night mostly, the occasional ground hog, the trigger breaks around 3lbs.

I once fired 250+ rounds thru without ever cleaning or running a patch thru just to see what it would do, and it fed and fired til I ran out of ammo. Maintian accuracy thruogh out.

It likes CCI 36 gr HP.

I do not shoot competitions, I'm just a plinker.

[Doug Roberts]

10/22s are fun and and easy to work on and rimfirecentral is an absolute must-see. You can dramatically improve the accuracy and function of the gun without spending a fortune if you're careful. You can also dump a truckload of money into one and end up with little improvement if you're not. RFC is loaded with good information from experienced 10/22-ites. Just lurking around there will help you a lot.

[Larry L]

I'd suggest building one....a 10/22 that is. Yeah, rimfirecentral is dandy place to start but let me whisper a secret to ya....Volquartsen. You can play games with the trigger group and replace a lot of the parts but by the time you fool with it and still don't have a target trigger, you'll buy the Volquartsen trigger and be happy. This one has a Green Mountain barrel on it. It'll shoot ragged holes at 50 yds with the right ammo. It shoots half inch groups all day with the right ammo at 100 yds. If you just want to BUY a darn nice shooting 10/22, just spring the bucks for a 10/22 from Volquartsen. I have a shooting buddy that has one and it shoots almost any ammo in a hole at 50 yds. FWIW, the target barrels will not cycle the hyper velocity ammo. The chambers are too tight for the hyper stuff. Mine shoots best using most any standard velocity ammo but it especially likes Aguila Golden Eagle Eley Prime.
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[Dave H]

Larry L, what ammunition shoots <.5" at 100 yards for you? Might like to try some.

Wolf Match Extra works for me at 50 yards but at 100 yards I find any wind at all at our range makes for patterns, not groups, for me, LOL.

[Markbo]

.... You can dramatically improve the accuracy and function of the gun without spending a fortune if you're careful. You can also dump a truckload of money into one and end up with little improvement if you're not....

That is exactly my experience. :D The Target model will shoot fine. You can spend a lot of money on a Volquartsen and have a very accurate gun. You can spend a good sum on a Target model and and will still have to do some work to truly maximize the accuracy. Or you can buy a used model and start tweaking away.

I enjoy the tweaking part and ended up building 9 or 10 of them. If you don't, feel confident in the Target model then plan on a little trigger work (really easy and cheap), bedding and maybe a new crown or chamber. Just that will turn it into an honest 1/2" @ 50 yard shooter.

[Oleman]

you'll end up with alot of money in it if you are planning to shoot matches and still not win. for hunting and plinking they are ok. i'm not a 10/22 fan after having $1200 in one and still not anyplace near a savage markII bolt rifle.

there is a large following for the rifle. www.rimfirecentral.com will send you down the path toward what you'll end up doing to one to get as much out of it as you can.

You can pick up a used Anschutz the Ruger or a Volquartsen will never out shoot it no matter how much money you dump into them. Isn't that right George?

[gonzo gunner]

You can pick up a used Anschutz the Ruger or a Volquartsen will never out shoot it no matter how much money you dump into them. Isn't that right George?

i can stand up and say you damned right on that one. i shoot right beside big g almost every match. his annie is a winner if he gets a damned tuner on it(hint hint big g!!!!! i'd like to be there when you get your match winner pin). my rifle can and does shoot better than me and big g is right there behind me every target. i have a total custom rifle and he has a box stock br-50 annie!!!!

i started out with a 10/22 and can tell you to get a better rifle without the ruger name on it if you want to shoot the best you and the rifle can!!!! if your thinking of shooting a 10/22 in matches your soon going to get a eye opening in a major way!!! i constantly here of these 10/22's that produce one hole groups at 50 yards. when we go to the range all i hear is reasons why it just never did shoot that damned well.


i'll shoot with anybody that wants to bring a 10/22 that will out shoot my hall actioned rifle or suhl anytime they are ready. bring your money. it's ganna cost you and cost you big!!!!!! i'll go $5 a bull on a ir50/50 target with you anyday.


get a better rifle to begin with and you won't have to replace everything on it to get it to shoot great. the key is don't buy anything with the ruger name on it. i know somebody who works at ruger. he doesn't own a rifle one with the ruger name on it. i asked him why and all he said is he wouldn't buy a ruger for any reason, and not just because he works there. that said alot to me.

[vmthtr in green bay]

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[C Miller]

I guess I missed the part where the statement, "I am thinking of a new toy" meant this guy wants to go shoot competitive matches. I do agree that spending 1200.00 on a 10-22 is, well....fill in the blank. Getting an accuate 10/22 is actually very cheap and more importantly can be built anyway "you" want it to without paying a gunsmith big bucks. The stock and barrel options are endless and affordable. When family coverges on my place I usually trot out 6-7 rimfires including a Calfee built Turbo. A pair of gussied up 10/22's are what everyone wants to shoot and these rifles cost less than 500.00 to build, new. Minus the donor you can buy a Green Mountain barrel, laminate stock and Vol hammer for 275.00 and shoot sub 1/2" groups with mid priced ammo. I do love my Annies and customs but also realize the fun customizing 10/22's provides is a fun experience in itself.

[Ron in Mn]

I bought a used blued T model cheap and did the trigger upgrade Volquartson and overtravel adjustment. Changed the barrel to a green mountain stainless and it shoots better than with the factory T barrel. I am pleased with it.

[lone ranger]

You can pick up a used Anschutz the Ruger or a Volquartsen will never out shoot it no matter how much money you dump into them.

(that's a secret), no money pit available for the Anschutz, they aren't called "Meister Machers" for nothing..........r in s.

[Bushrart]

Thank you all for the input, I was just looking for a new toy, I try not to take my 22 shooting too seriously. I have the 77/22 varmit and it is a great shooter with only a trigger job. I will let you know what I decide.

[SD Handgunner]

My nephew picked up a slightly used Ruger K10/22T last winter. I bougth a used Volquartsen Laminated Wood, Roll Over Monte Carlo Stock from a buddy for $55.00. My nephew sold the factory Laminated Wood Stock on the net for $75.00, so he came out $20.00 ahead on that part. We did have to do a little work on the Volquartsen Stock to get the barrel totally free floated. My nephew sent the trigger group off to a guy in California for a complete Trigger Job, complete with custom hammer bushings, a totally different trigger spring as well as other modifications. He then mounted up a Mueller 4.5x14x40mm AO APV Rifle Scope on it. Yes he is shooting it with the factory T Barrel.

It seems a little picky as to what ammo it likes but once we found the right ammo it shoots quite well. Not sure if it is going to win any bench rest matches, but then I am quite sure my nephew is not going to be shooting any bench rest matches either.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/LarryinSD/Jons1022T.jpg

On a different note last winter I bought a used standard Ruger 10/22 for $100.00. I also picked up a TAPCO T-6 Tactical Stock used off the net for $100.00. I modified the forend on the TAPCO T-6 Tactical Stock to mount an Aluminum DPMS Carbine Length AR-15 Free Float Tube on it. I had the factory carbine barrel shortened and recrowned at 17", and did a complete action & trigger job on this 10/22 myself.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/LarryinSD/CustomRuger10-22.jpg

This Tactical 10/22 is not going to win any beauty contests, nor is it going to win any bench rest matches. However it suits my needs, and better yet with the 6 Position Collapisable Buttstock it fits my 5'3" wife perfectly when she shoots it. What this 10/22 does do is kill small varmints, and does it quite well. I am very impressed with the accuracy of this standard 10/22 after I shortened and recrowned the factory barrel.

When I want to get serious about punching tiny groups of holes in paper I dig out my Custom Ruger 77/22. I too has a Volquartsen Laminated Wood Stock (that I have modified the shape of slightly). It wears a Clark Custom Guns 20" Stainless-Steel Bull Barrel and a Weaver V-16 4x16x42mm AO Rifle Scope with Fine Crosshairs / Dot Reticle. Just yesterday I was doing some shooting at 100 yards and with SK Jagd Standard Plus I was getting 5 shot groups measuring 1/2".

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/LarryinSD/CustomRuger7722-1.jpg

I used this Custom Ruger to win our Indoor Bench Rest Competition at our local club last winter. This is not to mean if I went to any sanctioned matches I would win, but rather it shoots good enough to compete with the guys at our local club, and for the most part shoots better than I can (ie I am the deciding factor not the gun).

I guess what I am trying to say is it all depends on what you want to do with the 10/22. If you want a fun gun, one you can tweak to make shoot a little more accurately and have fun with, then go for it.

Larry

[laportecharlie]

I have a couple of tricked out 10-22's and they are a lot of fun. For the money I would rather have a T-C R-55 in a semi auto or a CZ 452 or 453 for a bolt gun. Either will easily outshoot most 10-22's.
Charlie

[Doug Roberts]

Seems to me some folks have missed the point. I saw no reference to competitive target shooting in the OP. The 10/22 was never intended for competition and, while some have had success with it, most of the modified ones won't shoot with a dedicated bench gun. That's not why most guys buy and/or build a 10/22. OTOH, when was the last time you heard somebody ask to see pictures of your tactical CZ or Anschutz? ;)

[gonzo gunner]

nobodyhas ever won a sanctioned match with a 10/22. there is no success with a 10/22. if you shoot with guys who don't have a clue what a truely accurate rifle is you could fool them into believing 10/22's are super sweet. truth is they are 1/2 inch groups at 50 rifle. you'll hear of people shooting tiny groups or 2500 targets, but you'll never see it happen. they are the ak47 of the rimfire world. they'll shoot and shoot, but they are not accurate rifles in anyway at all.

they are 1/2 inch rifles at 50 yards at best. they are simply junk that you will have to replace everything on them to get them to shoot. after you have replaced everything you'll find you was money ahead buying a rifle like a cheap savage markII in the beginning.

i had a ruger m77 .22lr built with a shilen match grade barrel. you have to have the bolt shimmed and several otherthings done. the triggers even with aftermarket triggers are junk. when you are done you still won't see them ever listed in matches that count.

long and short ruger makes junk for fools. nothing more than junk. don't be a fool.

[William D Mansfield]

I agree with gonzo gunner,my Savage Mark2 out shoots the hell out of my Ruger 10/22,The trigger pull on the Ruger is very heavy.I know they are all heavy but the ruger is way to heavy.My Savage right out of the box shoots .25 in. groups at 50y.My Ruger shoots 1" at 50y.I think Ruger is over rated.

[gonedawgn]

I have a box stock 10-22 T and it shoots minute of Ground squirrel at 100 yards. (Jack Rabbits way further) No trigger work but it gets better every year Can shoot candy wafers at 50 yds all day. They shoot just fine and don't cost a lot. Mine even preferred the cheapest ammo. No status :eek:in all this but a lot of fun:D

[Markbo]

Personally I consider a 1/2" @ 50 yards to be very accurate for a .22 rifle that I carry around and hunt with.

Maybe lots and lots of benchrest .22's that shoot lots smaller groups, but I have never seen ONE in the field. I thought this was a hunting sight... not Benchrest.com.

[C Miller]

You know what they call a Benchrest gun in the squirrel woods....Junk! :p

[Oleman]

Personally I consider a 1/2" @ 50 yards to be very accurate for a .22 rifle that I carry around and hunt with.

Maybe lots and lots of benchrest .22's that shoot lots smaller groups, but I have never seen ONE in the field. I thought this was a hunting sight... not Benchrest.com.

Well you should have been in eastern Montana in July.

[Markbo]

Smarty aleck... you know what I mean!

[Jackie S]

[QUOTE=gonzo gunner;137580]i can stand up and say you damned right on that one. i shoot right beside big g almost every match. his annie is a winner if he gets a damned tuner on it(hint hint big g!!!!! i'd like to be there when you get your match winner pin). my rifle can and does shoot better than me and big g is right there behind me every target. i have a total custom rifle and he has a box stock br-50 annie!!!!

i started out with a 10/22 and can tell you to get a better rifle without the ruger name on it if you want to shoot the best you and the rifle can!!!! if your thinking of shooting a 10/22 in matches your soon going to get a eye opening in a major way!!! i constantly here of these 10/22's that produce one hole groups at 50 yards. when we go to the range all i hear is reasons why it just never did shoot that damned well.


i'll shoot with anybody that wants to bring a 10/22 that will out shoot my hall actioned rifle or suhl anytime they are ready. bring your money. it's ganna cost you and cost you big!!!!!! i'll go $5 a bull on a ir50/50 target with you anyday.


get a better rifle to begin with and you won't have to replace everything on it to get it to shoot great. the key is don't buy anything with the ruger name on it. i know somebody who works at ruger. he doesn't own a rifle one with the ruger name on it. i asked him why and all he said is he wouldn't buy a ruger for any reason, and not just because he works there. that said alot to me.

If you get any takers, let me know. I want a slice of the pie too.

[Doug Roberts]

Gee whiz fellers! The guy wants a plinker. He said he wasn't serious!

BTW, the AAR Cuda which used to race in SCCA wasn't as fast as Paul Newman's Ferrari but the guys who worked on it had just as much fun. Thought you'd want to know! :D

[VSSF]

Mine likes CCI Green Tags, love this .22 Volquartsen stuff throughout.
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