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I'm interested in buying a 223, such as the Remington SPS in sporter weight. For those of you shooting a 223 sporter, do you lose sight of the target from the gun's recoil or can you keep focused on it? I want to buy a sporter that I can retain target focus and will go to a 204 or 17 remington if needed. Thanks in advance for any insights.
 

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Not sure I agree

:confused: I lose sight picture on a 10+# PD rifle off a bench with bags. However off hand or on sticks a 6.5# sporter snug to the shoulder I am able to see the hits. I use 50gn VMax in both.

I think because my body recoils with the rifle. The 204 recoil is less than the 223 in either weight.

What are you wanting to shoot with it?

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I have a Model Seven 223 you can shoot to see for yourself

I am in the Canton, Ohio area. If you would like to see the difference in a light and a heavy .223 I'd be glad to take you to the local range if you are reasonably close. Personally, I like prefer the heavier gun. It is all personal preference though. I have all weekend (3 days) off work too.

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Thanks for feedback:
> Rick - my primary uses of my current varmit rifle ( a Rem 700 243 classic) are groundhogs, crows and occasstional coyotes or fox. I'm wanting a rifle that has less recoil so I can see my hits through the scope, and I didn't want anything too heavy to tote around the Allegheny Nat'l Forest when I'm hunting coyotes.
>Dave - thank you for the kind offer to experience the 223, and although this holiday weekend doesn't give me a chance to travel to Canton, I'd make the trip sometime in January. I live in the Ravenna area, so your in the neighborhood.
 

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It is easier, the lower magnification your scope is

I don't own any sporter weight .223 rifles. But with my heavier guns, I can usually see the hits OK at magnification powers up to 14x.

My Browning Varminter has a BOSS muzzle brake on it, though. And with it, I can more clearly see hits, even when using much higher magnification on my scope.

So if you can afford it, I would recommend installing a muzzle brake.

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I have a M700 223 in VLS, I lose sight picture in an 18x scope.
Same gun in 204R, I still lose site picture but not as bad.
I had a 17 Rem in BDL...I lost site picture in that one too.
My 17M4 BDL is good for seeing hits.
My friend Russ has a heavy 20 TAC with a muzzle break, great for seeing hits.

You might want to look at one of the Fireball family (221FB,20VT,17M4), or get a muzzle break if you really want to see the stuff fly.
 
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