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Jim, I thought you said you had a Colt Hbar? Look me up next week. You might be able to talk me into selling mine. I just don't use it and could use some other things right now. DPMS A2 stock. N133 and 52 smk's agg'd under half MOA. I'll give it to you with loads and let you play with it if you want.
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Build/assemble it yourself from components you choose. There are 100's of vendors selling parts these days. Prices are quite low now too.
I suggest you start with a quality barrel.
1. Krieger
2. Black Hole Weaponry
3. White Oak Armament
For higher end barrels.
Spend the next money on a quality trigger.
1. Jewel (if you can find one)
2. Timney 3.5lb modular drop in
Billet upper & lower receivers, free float hand guard, A2 stock assembly, Rock River one piece scope mount, nickle boron bolt-carrier assembly, charge handle with a wide release.
Hand picking components and doing the assembly yourself can reduce the cost by about 25% over paying retail price.
Take a look at the stock assemblies that Magpul offers.
I suggest you start with a quality barrel.
1. Krieger
2. Black Hole Weaponry
3. White Oak Armament
For higher end barrels.
Spend the next money on a quality trigger.
1. Jewel (if you can find one)
2. Timney 3.5lb modular drop in
Billet upper & lower receivers, free float hand guard, A2 stock assembly, Rock River one piece scope mount, nickle boron bolt-carrier assembly, charge handle with a wide release.
Hand picking components and doing the assembly yourself can reduce the cost by about 25% over paying retail price.
Take a look at the stock assemblies that Magpul offers.
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Yup! Pretty much described my new sub 1/2 MOA upper!
Couple exceptions - I've still to find a nice trigger.
Forged vs. billet receiver - I'm no metallurgist, but the forged receivers got the majority of the cudos for strength (not so important with light barrels, but 26" bulls need extraordinary strength to hold nearly a yard of thick steel by 1" of its end. (RRA's are forged...tipping point (in my case anyway).
Oh, FWIW, the Krieger bbl was chambered with a JGS 223 Wylde (match) reamer too. Reference the FREEBORE for the JGS 223 Wylde chamber
No claim to be any expert, but happy to share research results and your suggestions as well as other experts e.g., Big George, et al:
1) reamer chart. 2) (11º) crown, .920" diameter. 3) 26" (finished) w/ JP Enterprises adjustable gas block.
"My guy" at Krieger was Tod. He walked me through the various options and offered some critical advice.
Hope this helps!
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Trigger Tech make triggers for AR’s. But they are spendy. I don’t have an AR so I don’t have any personal experience with it. But I have three of them on my bolt action rifles and I really satisfied with them.
FWIW the Wylde chamber is only beneficial if
A. You are going to also shoot 5.56 ammom or
B. Going to shoot very long bullets - IF you can get them to fit in your mags
I am with Skruske...I am comfortable enough taking ARs apart that building one seems easy. You will need a specialty tool or two though.
A. You are going to also shoot 5.56 ammom or
B. Going to shoot very long bullets - IF you can get them to fit in your mags
I am with Skruske...I am comfortable enough taking ARs apart that building one seems easy. You will need a specialty tool or two though.
Here's a basic starter tool that really handy
https://www.midsouthshooterssupply....-(upper-and-lower-vise-block-and-ar-15-wrench)
https://www.midsouthshooterssupply....-(upper-and-lower-vise-block-and-ar-15-wrench)
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SUGGEST before buying a nice PAPERWEIGHT (like I did) to check with whomever you buy the barrel nut and shroud from. I bought one thinking it would come in handy when I got around to building my upper - only to find out the barrel nut was unique to Krieger's shroud system and that "universal" AR wrench is pretty much useless! NOTE TO SELF: Check first before buying. Just sayin....
NOTE TO SELF: Check first before buying. Just sayin....
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Good barrels are the ticket! I have experience with BH weaponry, and whiteoak armory, they both do great stuff, but for the money, I’d go with Black Hole Weaponry barrels. The Whiteoak barrels are just Wilson blanks... not that Wilson can’t make a good barrel, I’ve had several that shot really well. I’ve yet to try a Krieger barrel on an AR. Sure shoot em a bunch in UBR though.
Most of the custom AR builders are using the Wylde chamber... must be something to that.
When you get it together, learn to shoot it. Sounds easy, but that nice grip hanging off the bottom makes it very easy to drive the rifle with your firing hand. To my way of thinking, that’s not going to give you your best accuracy because it’s way to easy to torque the rifle with your firing hand. Try to pull it straight back and pull the trigger straight back and I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised with the accuracy an AR is capable of.
Wayne
Most of the custom AR builders are using the Wylde chamber... must be something to that.
When you get it together, learn to shoot it. Sounds easy, but that nice grip hanging off the bottom makes it very easy to drive the rifle with your firing hand. To my way of thinking, that’s not going to give you your best accuracy because it’s way to easy to torque the rifle with your firing hand. Try to pull it straight back and pull the trigger straight back and I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised with the accuracy an AR is capable of.
Wayne
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