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I live in Oregon. The Democratics in this state have super majority. It is getting out of hand.
I was in AZ the first of the year. It may be a place to move to. Feral hog hunting, no license no tags needed and no season. They have a world class public gun range in Phoenix built by the state. This says a lot for the state of mind.Housing is cheaper, cost of living including taxes is lower. Southern part of the state is warm in the winter. What am I missing? Thoughts?
Idaho I have always liked. I have a cop friend that has bought land there to build on and two other friends that are seriously looking at Idaho. We have had enough.
Idaho is colder but closer to family. I think I read recently there Idaho is the fastest growing state percentage wise. That could be a downside
Montana hmm not sure yet. Bozeman looks like housing is out of hand. I am hearing that the wealthy are building there because it is close to Yellowstone. I guess that is everywhere. A friend of my SIL visited her here in OR. After the friend saw the coast area she decided she needed a beach house but did not want to go over $1,000,000. I have been in the house she bought and it just might be 1 million.
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Understand your views on Oregon. Lived in the Eugene area for 35 years and moved to Idaho over 20 years ago. My wife talks about moving back when I retire to be closer to our mothers. Told her if House bill 501 were to pass there is no way I would move back to Oregon.

Still trying to talk her into to moving to SW Missouri so we are near the grandkids. She has no desire to somewhere with heat and humidity, and there have been comments about too many bugs there also. But there are grandkids there and they make everything better.
 

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501 is dead

A Republican State Rep that is a friend said 501 is dead, but there are 17 other gun bills floating around out there one of them is sure to stick. I am not a political person and this is as close as I get to talking about it. I am just posting some thought about where or if we will move. I have one married daughter 20 minutes away, no kids, yet. The other daughter is single living in MN. Who knows where she will land. Last week my daughter sent me a text saying let’s meet for breakfast. That counts for a lot and is a little had to do from AZ. I am leaning toward a few months in AZ.
 

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My daughter and SIL have been living in Seattle. Moved there after college about 10 years ago. Informed us last week they are moving back to Idaho. (Boise) They loved Seattle, but the political climate in WA is getting out of hand, and the city is going downhill, fast. I think there is a serious bout of "voting with their feet" going on all over. Lioberals want to control everything, and people are getting tired of it. Idaho's growing, but it's a long way from a big deal here. The cold weather will always keep a lid on it, IMHO.
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Bad part about moving to any growing State is the folks moving there are bringing their sicko crap with them. Even in the big State of Texas, the liberals have a choke hold on Austin and Houston now. Both are not choice locations anymore. Houston is commonly referred to as the AHole of Texas due to the fact that's where all of the crap is. Austin is the arm pit. My cuzins boy lives in Phoenix. They're looking for a way out but have no clue which way to go anymore. Phoenix is seeing more and more libs and they are very militant about it. At one time I would have told you Texas is the greatest place to move to, not anymore. Seems like all of the crap moving here has an agenda and you're going to like it, one way or another. Frankly, I think there should be a bounty on libs.
 

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I'm originally from Montana but have lived/made a living in Oregon since 1973. We have had enough and have put our Oregon home up for sale. It isn't just the politics, although that's part of it for me. It's the rude, overbearing people moving to Bend. People are NOT the same everywhere.

Friends of mine in law enforcement openly discuss all the crime committed by the "cheap labor" that came into the area during the last housing boom and stayed.

We will live in NC MT for the foreseeable future. I enjoy the country and my wife has acclimated well to this tiny community. Gets cold, though. We're presently under a Winter warning with predicted lows to -20 Sunday night and 8" / 10" of snow. We're well equipped for snow and cold, including having a loader tractor to plow out the yard and driveway. There is a price to pay for living 5 miles from pavement and, while we can, we pay it gladly.
 

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We live in Yuma AZ for six months and in Wyoming for 6 months. Best of both worlds . There are plenty of really great places in Arizona but the Phoenix area is not one of them IMHO, just another huge urban sprawl with all the associated problems. Californians by the tens of thousands are moving in to escape California and as soon as they get here they devote themselves to turning Arizona into California. Arizona is on the verge of becoming another blue state, wont be but a few years now. I dont know where you can go now to get away from it, Idaho and Montana are almost finished, Colorado went down the tubes years ago, even Wyoming is starting to tilt. Very sad.
 

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No matter what state it’s in, stay away from anyplace that is considered a big city.
 

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I feel safe that KENTUCKY will remain a Conservative, Gun Friendly, Redneck areas abounding State for the rest of my lifetime.
Only 2 counties voted Democratic the last presidential election. The counties holding Lexington and Louisville and no one in their right mind would want to move to either of them.

The indoctrination and propaganda being prompted by our educational systems will eventually destroy the whole nation. Josef Gobbels would be proud of the methods being used. He and Mao wrote the book on bending people's minds.
 

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Larry in Bend

I hear ya on Bend. When I was dating my wife in the late 70’s she lived in Bend. It is hard to wrap my mind around what it has become. There was no McDonalds or Burger King the Pine restaurant was one step above a greasy spoon place. Sisters you only stopped there to buy worms. My favorite fishing spot on the Deshutes at Trout Creek I could fish at all day and rarely see another person. My last trip there repeat last trip. I headed to where I normally fished and another guy was there. The rock climbing crowd has found it also so now parts are off limits because of eagle nests being disturbed. Abiqua Falls where my daughters use to go and hang out with out see another person now has a gate across the road going in. The Abbey that owns the land wants to keep it open for people to enjoy but it is getting trashed.
FB and the internet has taken the fun out of many of the fun places.
On an up beat note I know there are a lot of undiscovered places, that is why I own a Jeep with air lockers. :)
If I was to move to another country I would seriously look at Equator, but then there is the gun thing.
I enjoy people in general, but this godless crap I have seen lately where there are no absolutes or moral foundation makes it hard sometimes.
 

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Phoenix? A high school friend and her hubby moved there, a burb, two yrs ago. Chatted w him last Fall and he said 100+ days of triple digit HEAT. Kinda cooled my jets abt considering that climate. I don't know where I'd migrate to any more so I guess I'll stay put just S of Doug and N of KF and JR.
 

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Don't know why you'd say Idaho is finished, JN. Very solid, conservative state. certainly the libs have made a few inroads, but that's mostly driven by the Feds...not private groups. Idaho's a long way from Montana politically.
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If I were to leave Idaho, and the kid and grandkids weren't a factor, I'd take a serious look at eastern central Utah. There is a ton of relatively unused country, and the Mormons run a tight, conservative ship, though lately they've been tilting more left. But the bulk of that is in western Utah around SLC. Eastern Utah is practically deserted as far as numbers go.
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Phoenix is the nam that comes up

We flew in to Phoenix but put 1450 miles on the rental car in 5 days. From Flagstaff to Yuma. Tom, Phoenix would be crazy in the summer. What I did not realize it that the Flagstaff area is at 7,000 feet. It is a different world than Phoenix. It was funny I talked to a convenience store owner in Prescott. He had been in the area for two years, and was selling and moving. He thought the town was a bunch of hicks. It sounded to me like that might be a good reason to move there:D
We would still spend summers in Oregon. My oldest daughter loves the town she lives in. Her husband is tied to the big farm families in the area, and she really enjoys all the family camaraderie.
My wife retires in 3 years so no big rush. Oregon is an incredible state. An hour and a half to great beaches two hours to the mountains three hours to desert. Elk deer cougar Sagerats, trout fishing, salmon, steelhead, large mounts of BLM land. The problem is Portland and Eugene. I live in Salem that is not far behind. One of my neighbors was nickname Dr. death. He was one of the nicest guys you ever want to meet if you just talking to him on the street. The problem is he pushed through a bill that legalized assisted suicide. He died a year ago but did not use the law that he helped create.
Well I guess that’s getting off on a rabbit trail the point is we will be moving somewhere for winters. I don’t see us staying in Oregon.
 
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