[Paul Workman]

George (et al),

Would a magazine fed AR modified so that the bolt must be manually cycled to chamber each round (instead of being semi-auto) satisfy the semi-auto, single loading" rule for (ARs) at the BBB? Specifically, I have an adjustable gas block on one of my uppers - can be set so the bolt will NOT automatically cycle/load a fresh round, and I would like to give it a try at the next BBB.

(If you already answered this question once, forgive me. I've slept since then!)

 

[Kermit in Va.]

Paul, send it down and I'll" stamp" it and
it'll be good to go...


Underdog

 

[Kentucky Fisherman]

I haven't shot an AR down there, Paul, but my understanding is you can leave it semi-auto but you have to single feed the rounds by hand. I always figured the easiest thing to do would be get a 5-round mag that locks the bolt back, then simply drop the next round in and trip the bolt release. Shutting the gas off would be taking that even a step further and I can't imagine it wouldn't be fine. Or send it to Kermit's Non-custom Custom Shop.

 

[TinMan]

Or just get a Bob-Sled or similar single shot mag adapter.

http://www.originalbobsled.com/ARSleds.aspx

 

[george in KY]

as long as you load single rounds ..doesn't matter how.

 

[Paul Workman]

as long as you load single rounds ..doesn't matter how.

OK.... Then (just to be clear), I can feed from the magazine, as long as I manually cycle the charging handle for each round - sorta like running a bolt gun from a magazine, right?

For anyone else with OCD like me, the issues I'm trying to avoid are these:

• Loosing brass. Laupa match cases range from ~ $.60-.90, depending on what caliber I'm shooting, and that's before expending effort to uniform them precisely. The gun-mounted brass catcher is by far the best way ('ve found) to catch them. But, those have to be removed and replaced to load a fresh round. That's very time consuming AND distracting. Ejecting the spent cases by hand, and cycling a fresh round in - all manually - eliminates the need for any sort of brass catcher (and their inherent distractions).
  
  
• Need for Speed: Taking advantage of the situation when conditions (e.g., wind) is "just right"! Most of us that shoot competitively know what I mean. And, having to fuss with anything other than loading another round just frustrates the need for speed. I'm trying to remove all of the burden of complying with rules unique to semi-auto rules (at some matches - issues that only someone shooting an AR [for example] and who needs to retrieve pricy and prepped (match) brass can really appreciate.
  
  
• Neck tension (and seating depth too) we all know are tools for fine tuning match ammo. Lighter neck tension and/or variable seating depth are sometimes compromised by the needs to endure the rough handling resulting from rounds rapidly stripped from the magazine and slammed into the chamber typical of auto-loaders. Removing the "RICKETY-RACK" abuse again allows neck tension and (shallow) seating depths to be manipulated as they are for bolt guns.

Call me crazy, but certain things we've all learned as hand-loaders works! The semi-autos just pose special challenges which I'm striving to overcome. Wish me luck!!

 

[george in KY]

the bolt can cycle ..if you use a single shot follower insert in the magazine. bolt will lock back after firing then load a round slap the release.....or any way you want its up to you.

 

[45TAJ]

Well, there we have it. No muss, no fuss. No harm and no foul.
Iffen itsa oneuv those turkey emblemmed guns, no harm but a big turkey type fowl.... Right Donnie? Stir, stir

 

[Kermit in Va.]

Well, there we have it. No muss, no fuss. No harm and no foul.
Iffen itsa oneuv those turkey emblemmed guns, no harm but a big turkey type fowl.... Right Donnie? Stir, stir

No promises what it has on it when he gets it back

 

[Paul Workman]

the bolt can cycle ..if you use a single shot follower insert in the magazine. bolt will lock back after firing then load a round slap the release.....or any way you want its up to you.

Thanks, George for the clarification, and to all those with suggestions for single-firing. (I'll take it from here!)

P.