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I haven't ordered bullets in a while and it appears that my standby 50gr vmax has really went up in price. I paid $22 for my last 250 from Midsouth and now they are $27. I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions on a cheaper alternative. The shooting will only be pdog sized game from a 223 and maybe 22-250. Accuracy must be up to par because 50% of my shooting is at paper only.

I hope to go on my first pdog shoot this summer, so looking to save some money any way I can. I've been looking at the midway dogtown bullets for $8.50 per 100. That's a saving of over $30 per 1k rounds.

Or there's the 55gr Midsouth Varmint Nightmare for $28 per 500, that's a saving of $50 per 1k rounds (50% of vmax cost). Anybody know what the bc of these bullets are?

Any input would be appreciated.
 

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The 50g Speer TNT are very accurate.....

and probably the best buy out there that I know of. I have not shot the Dog Town bullets, so I can't say one way or the other of their accuracy or splat factor.

Good luck!
 

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I second Keith's statement about Speer 50gr TNT.
I have shot thousands of them in 223's and like them alot.
Buy them in the 1000 pack and save some money.
 

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I have shot the 50 gr. Dogtown & TnT bullets in about a dozen 222 & 223 rifles. Some rifles prefer the TNT & some do better with the Dogtown. Both are acceptably accurate in all my rifles. Performance on prairie dogs & ground squirrels appears to be about the same.
 

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Different thoughts...

I think the extra splat factor of plastic tip bullets is worth the money on prairie dogs. It makes my trips just that much more enjoyable.

Between now and when you make your PD trip I'm sure you could make up that $30 some other way. Just think of all the money you are forking out for your PD trip...might as well maximize your fun on the vacation. When I do MY cost/benefit analysis, I don't think the trade-off is worth it.

If I were you, I'd buy your V-Max and skip a trip to the restaurant or save aluminum cans or something.
 

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I have had good luck with

the 50gr Remington PLHP in my 223s, 22-250s and my 220 swift. The bulk remmy bullets shoot very well from all my rifles and have some major splat factor too. If I remember correctly, the jacket is electroplated on the lead core and that is what makes them so explosive. The last batch I bought cost me around $8 a hundred.
 

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Yes I know $30 is not much considering it all, but I use my 223 a lot of plinking and vmaxes are getting more and more expensive. I thought I would use the winter to work up some new loads with new bullets. My 22-250 loves the vmaxes and that is what she'll get. 500 rounds a year is a lot for my 22-250 considering 99% is range work. Sometimes I'll triple that nbr with the 223. Besides, what's wrong with trying something new, especially if it cheaper? My 223 doesn't seem to like the 50 gr vmaxes anyway, thinking of some 55 gr for the 1/9 twist savage.
 

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Second the Rem bulk PSP

I had a friend moly ~2K for me, I'm about out. Cheap, accurate, SPLAT!

6mmRemington
 

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For an economy varmint bullet its hard to beat the Speer TNT. The other bullets like the Hornady V-Max, Sierra Blitz King and Nosler BT out perform it, but nothing beats the TNT for sheer economics
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Neither of my 223s or my 22-250 liked the dog town bullet as well as the TNT. Haven't found a load with V-Maxes to match what I get with the TNT in any of the three. I don't remember which is which, but I think the dog town bullet is the old Nosler Solid Base, the Varmint Nightmare is the Hornady sp. May have that backwards.
The TNT have gone up enough that I'm thinking of trying the bulk Hornadys from Lock Stock and Barrel. (lockstock.com I think)
 

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similar to KBZ's experience

I've shot lots of Remington PLHP (PowerLoktHollowPoint) in 55 gr and had very good results.I've used mostly in Swift and .22-.250 and .22-.250AI.I used to get mine from Black Hills Shooters Supply.........
 

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Another TNT supporter

Have used the 50 and 55 grain TNTs in 223s and the 90 grain in a 270, all on P-dogs. Great bullets.

The 50 gr are used in my 223 bolt and are very accurate. Seem to have as good a splat factor as V-max bullets and for me, shot much better than the 55 grain V-maxs I tried. Have even used them in my 22 Hornet with good results but went to 40 gr bullets for more velocity and longer range shooting.

Used the 55 gr in my son's ARs (after trying 55 gr Hornady SX and watching them not get to the targert) and really like the accuracy and splat (fast twist barrels work well).

The 90 gr out of my 270 provides more air time for P-dogs than any other combination I have tried. And they shoot with great accuracy.

At the least, buy a box of 100 and give them a try. You just may be buying more by the 1000 after that.
 

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I have used the Hornady 50gr SX in both the 222 and 223 with good accuracy and performance, I really liked it in my [email protected] around 3000fps, it also performed well in my 223, the last time I seen they were around $9 per 100, they really blew up groundhogs so I can only guess what they would do to a prairre dog.
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I have only used Sierra and Hornady "plastic tip" bullets, but I can tell you that the "splat factor" of the Sierra TNT will match 'em all.

The TNT is an excellent, near match quality, bullet. I've used them in .223, .22-250, .243, 6BR, .308 and friends use them in 30BR.

Also had very good accuracy and performance from the Hornady SX (super explosive) which comes in 50- and 55-gr. versions. Just a reminder, especially if using the .22-250, that the TNT and SX are not meant for high velocities in fast-twist barrels (I think Hornady suggests <3,850 fps). They have soft lead cores and slitted jackets and I have seen them "disappear" a few feet from the muzzle of a .22-250. Had one "shrapnel" a Chrony, too.

Another consideration that my 1:9 twist Savage barrels have liked, is the Remington 50- and 55-gr. PLHP (Powr-Lokt). These shoot extremely well, do not have any "shrapnel" problems, and Midway has them for $9/100, $42/500.
 
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