df, I don't have one, haven't seen one either. I did buy a Kimber pistol, a $1300.00 Grand Raptor to be exact. Lets just say that I have a 12 ga that shoots a tighter group at 25 yards. I sent it back to Kimber and got it back just like I sent it. It seems that Kimber was hit by their CPA who walked off with $10,000,000.00 of their dollars. Speculation, and I mean speculation, is that they may not survive. I can tell you their customer service sucks. If you get a good one, its probably gonna be a fond keeper. If it doesn't shoot right.........best-a-luck. Personally, I'd look elsewhere.