Mike/John, an old board friend, frank c, has some real problems getting onto the new discussion area and has asked for my help. He asked me to post his e/mail addy and asked if one of you could possibly help him. He shows up on the memberes list, but when he tried to log on, it says that something is invalid. As per his request, here is his addy: fscATfrontiernetDOTnet Thank you. Bill..................