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I was out testing some hot 45 acp loads and noticed some dogs running around in the brush. 260gr SWC at about 1100fps seems to knock them down pretty hard.



I was working on a 165gr hydra shock loaded really hot in 45 super brass it's showing promise at 50 yards. Should make a nice jackrabbit load for this summer.



 

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I think it's a 1:16 twist. It shoots 300gr bullets ok but it shoots 260gr better. At 1000-1100fps they are plenty and very quiet with the can..... it would be a really good close range medium game rifle actually but it's not legal here based on the OAL of the loaded round.

Lightweight jacketed bullets are very devastating on small critters.
 

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It's a 45 acp single shot on a Savage action.

45 acp and 45 super have the same external dimensions so they are interchangable in my rifle.
 

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Apache gun works had it on eBay and I couldn't not buy it, I have had it for a couple years. AGW has made several barrels for me including dad's 260 barrel.

Being a strong action you can really get alot out of the 45 acp sized case. The 45 super rounds were loaded using 460 Rowland data and handled them fine.... I'd be surprised if they were slower than 1700fps. Normal ACP book loads with a 185gr xtp Chrono very close 1350fps.

I'd like to have a 45 win mag or a 10mm mag barrel also they would be legal for me to hunt with.
 

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How does it compair to a blackout? 1100fps is 1100 fps...maybe the pistol round open easier?
I always said if Hi Point made their cabine in 10mm I'd buy one but just can't get myself to part with 350 for a hipoint. Might be nice to have a 10mm upper though?
 

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300blk has it beat with lightweight bullets and high bc subs. The nice thing about a 45 caliber bullet is you really don't need to rely on expansion or tumbling and most 45 bullets are designed to expand at pistol velocities anyways.

As far as suppressing I dont have a comparable platform to test, my 300blk is an AR so you get alot of action noise. I prefer the 45 for general plinking also. 5.5gr of powder will launch a 200gr cast SWC just below the point of a Sonic crack.

The price of expanding sub sonic ammo is not even in the same ball park.
 

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AFA comping it to the Blackout, true, energy definitely counts but the RSP (relative shocking power) is a factor also.
The analogy i use is this: A 2,000# needle moving at 3k fps gives astronomical ft pounds of energy. How much knockdown is there to this obvious "pencilling through"? Therefore the RSP of a flying ash tray.

This is why my personal choice for a non shottie home defense weapon is still a 45acp handgun. Ease of left hand use is an added benefit over a Blackout carbine - to me.
All mileages may and probably will vary. 🙂
 

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For those that are interested. 165gr Hydra shocks are much faster than I thought they would be.

 
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