He always wrote about different rifle loads that he could shoot a Coyote and the bullet stays inside and don't blow up the pelt! Yup! I tried all his good loads in everything he wrote about - - Proceeded to blow Coyotes clean to hell and gone! I've used every cartridge from the 17's right up through the 25's(which are for killing them dead and leaving them or for calling contests). It's a good thing I got a coupla good spools of tough Carpet thread and a bunch of needles is all I can say. We've dumped about 40 Coyotes so far this last 5 weeks and I'm sewing about 25% of them up more than I want. Even the little 17 Ackley Hornet Imp. with the 25 gr. Vmx can take out both sides of the ribcage and you don't even want to see what the 204/40 gr vmx @ 3900 fps does. You have to center them just deadcenter face-on to get the shots I like but have you ever got one of those guys to just stand still and get in just the right position? I call 'em "Water Bag Coyotes", where they just sound like a water jug you're shaking. Really it's a false Rant I'm doing. We are having a good fur hunt and now is the time to be calling them. Calling them in thick sagebrush is shotgun territory but we use rifles and have to shoot fast and close once in a while. When I do use a shotgun, I shoot Federal Premium Copper Plated "Buffered" BB loads. Been using the 17 Hornet, 204, 22 K hornet, 222 Rem & 223. I like the 204 best but it can tear a Coyote all to hell if you hit him wrong. Had one fall in half trying to skin it the other day. I haven't used the 32 gr. vmx in the 204 yet just the 40 gr. Anybody prefer one over the other? What's some of you guys favorite fur loads? Godsdog.