Ruger varmint target worth rebarrel ??????
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My favorite rifle...
at least for deer. The Ruger 77 Mark II action is almost fool proof. I've owned a dozen or so I guess [3 now] and the only thing I hear is the flat bottom action is not a favorite of those that prefer the round bottoms. IF I were going for a top notch target rifle,,I MIGHT agree - the 700 action is better for bedding into a match stock,,and the triggers are more 'workable'. But for hunting I still like the Ruger action. I don't try to argue with those that say they can't find an accurate [well under MOA capable] Ruger,,the barrels have not been COMMONLY accurate. But for minute of deer I still like the basic rifle, and lately I believe accuracy has improved a lot, too.
However, it is a very easy action to fit barrels to. No extractor relief or other extra time consuming machine work necessary other than proper threading/chambering/headspacing. A GREAT rifle to make into a "switch-barrel", too.
I'm using a Shilen barrel that was inexpensive and available a few years ago. I fit it [.250SAI now] to my .308 Win Sporter and sold that very accurate .308 barrel [Jim the Plumber put it on his daughter's rifle].
My Ruger is now my only 'big game' rifle since retina partial detach injury made it unwise to shoot heavy kickers. I may get time to load the box of 75 gr Vmaxs that have been lying around and use it on a local farm that is heavy with coyotes.
By the way, Doc had a Ruger like yours. His had an after market barrel in 6BR that was amazingly accurate!
Second rifle here is a Ruger I rebarreled to .300 Win Mag that I called the "Pasture Cannon".
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at least for deer. The Ruger 77 Mark II action is almost fool proof. I've owned a dozen or so I guess [3 now] and the only thing I hear is the flat bottom action is not a favorite of those that prefer the round bottoms. IF I were going for a top notch target rifle,,I MIGHT agree - the 700 action is better for bedding into a match stock,,and the triggers are more 'workable'. But for hunting I still like the Ruger action. I don't try to argue with those that say they can't find an accurate [well under MOA capable] Ruger,,the barrels have not been COMMONLY accurate. But for minute of deer I still like the basic rifle, and lately I believe accuracy has improved a lot, too.
However, it is a very easy action to fit barrels to. No extractor relief or other extra time consuming machine work necessary other than proper threading/chambering/headspacing. A GREAT rifle to make into a "switch-barrel", too.
I'm using a Shilen barrel that was inexpensive and available a few years ago. I fit it [.250SAI now] to my .308 Win Sporter and sold that very accurate .308 barrel [Jim the Plumber put it on his daughter's rifle].
My Ruger is now my only 'big game' rifle since retina partial detach injury made it unwise to shoot heavy kickers. I may get time to load the box of 75 gr Vmaxs that have been lying around and use it on a local farm that is heavy with coyotes.
By the way, Doc had a Ruger like yours. His had an after market barrel in 6BR that was amazingly accurate!
Second rifle here is a Ruger I rebarreled to .300 Win Mag that I called the "Pasture Cannon".
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Ruger Rebarrel
Here is a Ruger that I rebarreled in 300win mag that is a pasture cannon also. I don't think it's the flat bottom that steers people away from Ruger it is there is so much for Rem 700's in custom parts and the triggers too. It wouldn't bother me to have a custom Ruger.
Here is a Ruger that I rebarreled in 300win mag that is a pasture cannon also. I don't think it's the flat bottom that steers people away from Ruger it is there is so much for Rem 700's in custom parts and the triggers too. It wouldn't bother me to have a custom Ruger.
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I have a Ruger 77, (rear tang safe) for my son in 7MM Rem. I love the action and it shoots with my old Savage 110, once I had it pillar bedded and teh stock sealed. The 60* angle for the action screw is a head scratcher to set up in the Bridgeport for this machinist hack but it did makea big difference.
It does shoulder and handle like a agun that weighs 2 # less. Mucg nicer than my Savage.
Merry Christmas
T.D.C.
It does shoulder and handle like a agun that weighs 2 # less. Mucg nicer than my Savage.
Merry Christmas
T.D.C.
A lot of gunsmiths frown when asked about putting a new barrel on a Ruger. Mainly because they are tooled up for the cylindrical receiver of the 700, and don't like to change their setup to work on the Ruger with it's large trigger lug. They are a first class action, and many fine customs have been built with them.
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Pac Nor did a great job on a Model 77 (tang safety) I had re-barrled to 25/06 Imp.
Ruger rebarrel
16 years ago I traded for ruger 22-250 at a gun show. It had been recently rebarreled with a Hart ss barrel. It shot great and it was my favorite PD gun for most of its 8000 rounds. I sold it this year to a young man who wanted a rifle for coyotes. I liked the rifle and never had any trouble with it.
I had planned to have it rebarreled, but now my interest is in custom Ruger #1
and #3's so I sold it.
Dave in IN
16 years ago I traded for ruger 22-250 at a gun show. It had been recently rebarreled with a Hart ss barrel. It shot great and it was my favorite PD gun for most of its 8000 rounds. I sold it this year to a young man who wanted a rifle for coyotes. I liked the rifle and never had any trouble with it.
I had planned to have it rebarreled, but now my interest is in custom Ruger #1
and #3's so I sold it.
Dave in IN
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Ruger Varmint Target in 6PPC
I have a 6PPC that is the most accurate factory gun I've ever shot---no bedding or any changes, 100% factory.
I'm not likely to shoot this barrel out but I'd think the basic platform for the barrel would be good enough to justify a good barrel later.
I'm basically a Rem guy and am set up to work with Rems but this Ruger is the stuff.
A. Weldy
I have a 6PPC that is the most accurate factory gun I've ever shot---no bedding or any changes, 100% factory.
I'm not likely to shoot this barrel out but I'd think the basic platform for the barrel would be good enough to justify a good barrel later.
I'm basically a Rem guy and am set up to work with Rems but this Ruger is the stuff.
A. Weldy
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Rebarreling a Ruger
Got a couple of rebarreled and restocked for that matter.For the most part it is worth doing!
Here is a 308Baer that is a great shooter.
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Had an old tang in 243 that I rebarreled to 8twist 22-250.It shots the 75Amax preaty good for the poor job the smith did.I like the Boydes stock almost as much as the VT stock?
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This 223VT has ben my go to gun for a lot of years.A buddy baught a Savage FV the same time I baught the VT but that Savage out shot the Ruger! Cant have that....especialy back then!!! so I had the local smith recrown and rechamber so I could get to the lands with a 40grain Vmax.He also did a good job of getting the trigger down to right at a pound.That dang Savage still outshots it....but not by much
My longest dog is a good 200 yards farther than that Savage though HE He he.
Its got a lot of rounds down the barrel and I cant find the lands with even a 55 grainer any more.I would like to rebarrel it to Tac20 but I want the same grey finish.So I can either find a 204 tackoff and have it rechambered or just set this barrel back again and stay with the 223 or 223AI????? It still kills its share of dogs though so this tightwad has got some time to think about it.
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Got a couple of rebarreled and restocked for that matter.For the most part it is worth doing!
Here is a 308Baer that is a great shooter.
Had an old tang in 243 that I rebarreled to 8twist 22-250.It shots the 75Amax preaty good for the poor job the smith did.I like the Boydes stock almost as much as the VT stock?
This 223VT has ben my go to gun for a lot of years.A buddy baught a Savage FV the same time I baught the VT but that Savage out shot the Ruger! Cant have that....especialy back then!!! so I had the local smith recrown and rechamber so I could get to the lands with a 40grain Vmax.He also did a good job of getting the trigger down to right at a pound.That dang Savage still outshots it....but not by much
My longest dog is a good 200 yards farther than that Savage though HE He he.Its got a lot of rounds down the barrel and I cant find the lands with even a 55 grainer any more.I would like to rebarrel it to Tac20 but I want the same grey finish.So I can either find a 204 tackoff and have it rechambered or just set this barrel back again and stay with the 223 or 223AI????? It still kills its share of dogs though so this tightwad has got some time to think about it.
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I have had a couple of Re-barrels........
I had a Ruger 77 (tang saftey) that was a switch barrel in a #5 taper 308 (douglas Chrome moly) and a Hart 243 AI .265 neck zero free bore in a McMIllen hunter class stock. Holy cow, what a shooter that rifle was.
Here is the deal on a Ruger, you talk Ruger to a custom gun maker and you are basically an odd ball maybe a queer for sure. How much of an odd ball is yet to be determined. I did it just for the heck of doing it, I was tired of being lied to by the Bench Rest crowd. The benchrest crowd taught me that I had to go whole hog custom and after I had 8 Hall "M" actions, they still would not shoot as well as a trued 700 action that I had on hand (probably the Barrel).
If you like being different, then Ruger is your balley wigg for sure. I had 4 -243 AI's with Hart bbls and minimum spec turn neck chambers. I wanted to see what a Ruger 77 (tang safety) would do with a 26" "Light Varmint" contour with a Muzzle break on the barrel with the same reamer. You can just imagine my shock when I took the Ruger, McMillen Hunter Class stock, Hart barrel, 243 AI, .265 neck, zero freebore to the range and shot a group in the 3's fireforming Rem 7/08 brass (necked down to 243).
My conclusion is that about everything that you read about a custom this or that is a crock of crap. The accuracy is in the quality of the barrel, design of the reamer, quality of the stock, quality of the optics, and quality of the bedding.
I got really pissed off and put a Shilen select match in 6mm Remm on a Parker Hale 6mm Remm Varmint rig. Holy cow, first time to the range, 50.0g of 760 with a GTB 60g HP shot @ 4000 fps shot in the high 2's. By now, I know that I have been lied to in as far as actions etc are concerned.
Bottom line, if you like Ruger, they will shoot with the best of them with custom barrels and minimum spec chambers. You will take a bath on them if you ever dicide to sell them because no one wants them.
I fell in love with a Sorel, bald face mule while I lived in Az. I sold my precious Ruger 77 in 243 AI/308 switch barrel. The guy that I sold it to sent me pictures of p.dogs that he shot at 1000 yard and got into the 1000 yard club...the mule ran off with me and just about turned me into a quadra-pologic....there is a moral in there somewhere I reckon.
Bottom line is that if you like Rugers, you are sure in for a beat'en!
Good luck and Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays!
I had a Ruger 77 (tang saftey) that was a switch barrel in a #5 taper 308 (douglas Chrome moly) and a Hart 243 AI .265 neck zero free bore in a McMIllen hunter class stock. Holy cow, what a shooter that rifle was.
Here is the deal on a Ruger, you talk Ruger to a custom gun maker and you are basically an odd ball maybe a queer for sure. How much of an odd ball is yet to be determined. I did it just for the heck of doing it, I was tired of being lied to by the Bench Rest crowd. The benchrest crowd taught me that I had to go whole hog custom and after I had 8 Hall "M" actions, they still would not shoot as well as a trued 700 action that I had on hand (probably the Barrel).
If you like being different, then Ruger is your balley wigg for sure. I had 4 -243 AI's with Hart bbls and minimum spec turn neck chambers. I wanted to see what a Ruger 77 (tang safety) would do with a 26" "Light Varmint" contour with a Muzzle break on the barrel with the same reamer. You can just imagine my shock when I took the Ruger, McMillen Hunter Class stock, Hart barrel, 243 AI, .265 neck, zero freebore to the range and shot a group in the 3's fireforming Rem 7/08 brass (necked down to 243).
My conclusion is that about everything that you read about a custom this or that is a crock of crap. The accuracy is in the quality of the barrel, design of the reamer, quality of the stock, quality of the optics, and quality of the bedding.
I got really pissed off and put a Shilen select match in 6mm Remm on a Parker Hale 6mm Remm Varmint rig. Holy cow, first time to the range, 50.0g of 760 with a GTB 60g HP shot @ 4000 fps shot in the high 2's. By now, I know that I have been lied to in as far as actions etc are concerned.
Bottom line, if you like Ruger, they will shoot with the best of them with custom barrels and minimum spec chambers. You will take a bath on them if you ever dicide to sell them because no one wants them.
I fell in love with a Sorel, bald face mule while I lived in Az. I sold my precious Ruger 77 in 243 AI/308 switch barrel. The guy that I sold it to sent me pictures of p.dogs that he shot at 1000 yard and got into the 1000 yard club...the mule ran off with me and just about turned me into a quadra-pologic....there is a moral in there somewhere I reckon.
Bottom line is that if you like Rugers, you are sure in for a beat'en!
Good luck and Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays!
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Luck of the draw ?
I don't know much about Rugers but am somewhat surprised at how little the barrel of my VT 6PPC fouls. I recently shot with a guy who has a VT in 22 PPC and he had the same comments about his barrel and the gun's accuracy.
I don't know if Ruger made a conscious effort to put better barrels on these VT guns of if the other guy and I just got lucky. Maybe Murph knows.
A. Weldy
I don't know much about Rugers but am somewhat surprised at how little the barrel of my VT 6PPC fouls. I recently shot with a guy who has a VT in 22 PPC and he had the same comments about his barrel and the gun's accuracy.
I don't know if Ruger made a conscious effort to put better barrels on these VT guns of if the other guy and I just got lucky. Maybe Murph knows.
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Hi CJ, that little old Ruger has been around quite a while. I can remember running a few rounds down the tube several years ago and its still shooting.-Cliff-
Ruger Rebuilds ....
Depends on the Gunsmith and if he knows what he is doing . Some years ago I saw a young lad walking around a big Show carrying around a full-blown BenchRest Rifle based on a Ruger Action . Never having seen anything like this , I asked to see it . Great workmanship and it was in 6 PPC . He showed it to a lot of Dealers , and no one was interested . Luckily I had taken his Phone No . , and after kicking myself a few times I called him . It was built by one of the old Master Gunsmiths in the East , and to make a long story short , I bought it ( Wilson Dies and all ) . The Kid only used one Powder and one load of H322 and some Custom Bullets a BR Shooter in the area only makes for himself and a few friends . I decided to shoot the kind of grungy looking Ammo , and it Grouped 4 shots in the 2's . Hmmm ! It only came with Unertl Bases and I found out why .....darn regular Ruger Rings were horribly out of alignment . I have two other alternatives to make the Ruger Rings work , and hope to see how this Ruger BenchRest Rifle shoots with some good components .
Depends on the Gunsmith and if he knows what he is doing . Some years ago I saw a young lad walking around a big Show carrying around a full-blown BenchRest Rifle based on a Ruger Action . Never having seen anything like this , I asked to see it . Great workmanship and it was in 6 PPC . He showed it to a lot of Dealers , and no one was interested . Luckily I had taken his Phone No . , and after kicking myself a few times I called him . It was built by one of the old Master Gunsmiths in the East , and to make a long story short , I bought it ( Wilson Dies and all ) . The Kid only used one Powder and one load of H322 and some Custom Bullets a BR Shooter in the area only makes for himself and a few friends . I decided to shoot the kind of grungy looking Ammo , and it Grouped 4 shots in the 2's . Hmmm ! It only came with Unertl Bases and I found out why .....darn regular Ruger Rings were horribly out of alignment . I have two other alternatives to make the Ruger Rings work , and hope to see how this Ruger BenchRest Rifle shoots with some good components .
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