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I work very hard to be apolitical in my online life, but this is something that makes my blood boil. There is such a thing as the separation of state and church. If you want your children to be raised in a parochial school, that is your prerogative.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-board-votes-cut-hillary-060257161.html

My daughter is a editor and publisher for a text book company. This is not the first run in with the board of education.

Diluting or ignoring history will lead to the same mistakes being made. The student population must be aware of all history so they are in a position to take over for us geezers. They are entitled to all of the information so an educated decision can be made.

This type of censorship is simply not right.
 

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The Truth CAN Hurt!

Maybe that Board of Education is strongly leaning left and, being like most left leaning no gooders, they would rather the youngsters not learn about such a corrupt, lieing, crooked, "let-the-ambassador-die, old wench like Hillary Clinton. They would rather have her shown as something she Is NOT and someone with some weight to throw around says otherwise!! But I believe she should be shown for the worthless life form she really is but just wait to see what shenanigans the Board of Education pulls to get their way. I say every dirty trick she's ever pulled right up to selling 20% of the U.S. uranium supply to the Russians should be taught AND EXPLAINED!!
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I don't quite see it that way. Don't get me wrong, I don't like that lying bitch in the least. But I see at as a snub to her. She doesn't deserve the time of day. That's the best part of their decision. Forget her and move on. Learn about more important things than her.
 

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I say include her. Kids need to be taught how power can corrupt a person to the point where they'll kill to cover up certain things. Yes, I honestly believe that. So, leave her in, but explain her connection to Vince Foster and Benghazi, Libya.
 

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Yeah, but..........

I say include her. Kids need to be taught how power can corrupt a person to the point where they'll kill to cover up certain things. Yes, I honestly believe that. So, leave her in, but explain her connection to Vince Foster and Benghazi, Libya.
I agree, Mike, but I don't think for one minute they would touch on the truth about Hillary if they did include her in the curriculum. Better forgotten far as I care. Helen Keller, OTOH, is an amazing story and should never be forgotten. Damn two-bit politicians include their local nobodies over people who changed our world!

Kids coming out of high school today, can't do math without a calculator, don't know the location of any state they've not visited, never heard of cursive writing, can't spell, have never heard of WWI, WWII, the Korean war or Vietnam. The Civil War is being erased from US history and the Revolution.......most kids don't know what that word means with an upper case R. Better stop before I have apoplexy and fall off my soapbox but I think y'all know what I mean.
 

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Ya gotta see bad to know bad. If there is no knowledge there is a risk of a repeat performance. We lived it, the kids didn't.

Do you believe we should remove the holocaust from the history books because we find it offensive or contrary to our beliefs? Certainly not. But when you start editing where does it end.
 

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I'm sort of torn on this one. On the one hand I truly believe Hil-hag has gotten more then the 20 minutes she deserves. However I also doubt that if kept in the curriculum they would spend the time required to understand what she has done and the effect of her actions. Start with Vince Foster, her holding secret meetings as first lady and taking restricted documents into the living quarters of the White House. Then what she has done after leaving the WH is equally disgusting. I honestly dont see how anyone could vote for her after her long record of underhanded deals and corruption!

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My concern is not a re run of Hil hag, she is done. My concern is someone of similar ilk showing up and we do not have the knowledge and insight from studying her tactics. History ignored is history forgotten and we are doomed to repeat the mistakes.
 

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Teachers only have so many hours to teach kids our National History. Most commonly, these classes never get as far as WWII and the school year is over. To eliminate anything about the Clintons is pretty much moot. The kids hardly ever get to current history anyway. Besides, you could easily have an entire semester class on the Clintons and who they've screwed out of millions of dollars, Benghazi, Russian uranium deal, etc. The only reason this has any value in the liberal media is the reference to Texas having Christian values. The Libs are incensed over that remark.
 

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Kids coming out of high school today, can't do math without a calculator, don't know the location of any state they've not visited, never heard of cursive writing, can't spell, have never heard of WWI, WWII, the Korean war or Vietnam. The Civil War is being erased from US history and the Revolution.......most kids don't know what that word means with an upper case R. Better stop before I have apoplexy and fall off my soapbox but I think y'all know what I mean.
Indeed we do. A few days ago at the local supermarket, the checkout girl, maybe in her early 20's, was reminded to give me my 10% Veteran discount after she had finished checking my groceries. Asking her to take 10% off the bill completely flumoxed her, she had to dig out her pocket calculator to compute the 10%. Sad. Very sad.
 

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If they left Hillary in the textbook, they would simply whitewash her and talk about what a wonderful person she is, so I don't see it as a loss.
 

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The issue I am concerned about is not Hillary. It is the fact that they are censoring content. As much information as is available out there should be made available for public review.
 

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jnyork and Doug, I agree totally. A couple of months ago, we went to a local pizza parlor, not one the big chain places. We had a coupon for 20% off, and the clerk did not know how much that was. I figured it mentally and told her the answer. She didn't believe me, dug out her phone from her back pocket, and used the calculator function. Then she looked surprised and asked "How did you do that?"
 

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And the ones that can't make change manually. Local coffee shop had 2 or 3 part timers that were let go because they could not grasp the concept. One girl was a sweet young ditzy thing and I spent some time with her trying to teach her to count change.
I didn't dare show her an analog clock. She would not know how when to start and quit work.
 

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And people wonder why we are no longer competitive in the world market.
 

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Indeed we do. A few days ago at the local supermarket, the checkout girl, maybe in her early 20's, was reminded to give me my 10% Veteran discount after she had finished checking my groceries. Asking her to take 10% off the bill completely flumoxed her, she had to dig out her pocket calculator to compute the 10%. Sad. Very sad.
Yep. I have a similar experience. I don't know what in the world kids are being taught today, but we're (as a nation) in deep sh*t, far as education goes. I used to teach basic arithmetic skills to adults entering the cable TV industry.:( (Don't get me started!:mad:)

In my mind, if the history segment were truly factual and not capricious and arbitrary, I believe the "Clinton Era" has rich significance in the history of American politics and the lives of millions of us in the USA. Just because various figures in history held view that are no longer in vogue, e.g., Lenin and Karl Marx and Hitler and Pol Pot and Castro etc. they affected history and for good or bad there are lessons to be gleaned from the knowledge. It's been said: 'Those that don't know their history are doomed to repeat it!"

I don't know which would be worse: omitting sections on Hillary C, or including them, written with nefarious and deliberate intent to skew the student. If the latter was to be included in the text of some history books, I'd be in favor of omitting the BS articles - leaving the students to find other sources for knowledge.
 

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The time has come

There's a question I used to ask in jest but now it's time has come. Especially considering the education we're turning out today. If all the timepieces in the world were digital, which way would be clockwise?

I can only imagine the head scratching among the younger folk.
 

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Doug, if the schools lose the concept clockwise, I wonder if schools would start teaching "righty tighty and lefty loosy" for directions?
 

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Fir a short time our district had a life skills class. Applying for credit,the management of credit, opening and balancing a check book, filling out an application for employment, realtime face to face interview skills. reading a road map. When they cut driver training due to budget cuts that was lost also.
 
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