Here's our old boy Too and the new pup Trey. Picture was taken 2 weeks ago. We've just sent off Trey's saliva sample for a DNA check. The rescue place called him a shepherd mix but I think he's a lot more mix than shepherd. Too goes about 65 lbs and Trey was 25 lbs yesterday at 18 weeks. He looks to me like he's got some Rottweiler in him and likely to be at least as big as Too. What say you GGVG?