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Missed a groundhog today at 100 yds because I could not see the pig as the dot was so big. One of those fake Eotech red dots especially for 223. Things are going back to the old way so bad eyes can see some distance.
 

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The AR that I use for hunting wears a Leupold VXIII 3x9. Works great on a 6.5 Grendel....it should work fine on a 223 too.
 

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My favorite is Not a Tacticool scope.
I use a Nikon Buckmaster 4 x 14 with milldots. You can't kill small targets with these red dot things....I have one sitting in the gun safe.
This Nikon is a really tough scope, rides on my Polaris Ranger and in my Tractor all the time. It is all scratched up and dinged but holds zero good.Real Good.

I must have a lot to say. 4000 posts but I used to post. A lot when I was doing something but getting out of bed and putting one foot in front of the other....
 

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I have a Vortex 3.5x10x50 with a BDC reticle on mine. Works out pretty good when hunting at night with the red led lights on 3.5...you can see pretty far off.
It is still pretty clear at 10x too....it has capped finger adjustable turrets and like Jr mine is not pretty as it gets beat around a lot but stays on zero'd in very well.

I don't think I'd go over 16x, but it just depends on what your doing with it.
 

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For my ARs, I've been switching to mainly Vortex. On three of them I have their "Strike Eagles" one a 1-6 (.22 LR) and two 1-8s (.223/5.56, and 6.8). On my 50 I have a 4-16 Viper. My 9mm has a Spitfire, that's a prismatic almost dot like sight. For now, I have a Viper 2-7 on my .308. Only one other AR gas other glass on for now.
I see them as excellent scopes for the money, and their warranty can't be beat!

Steven
 

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You kinda need to figure out ranges, intended targets, and price range. There’s a huge difference between a $150 scope and $750 scope

FWIW, I’ve got a 6.5-20x40 VX-III on my AR Varminter. I take it Prairie dog hunting and routinely get first round hits at 300 yards

I’ve looked thru about every moderately priced scope. I am totally underwhelmed by Nikon. I’ve only looked thru lower end Vortex and wasn’t impressed by them

IMO, there’s Leupold, Burris, and everything else. And, remember that the low end of any brand will likely never be as good as the top end of another brand
 

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Hmmmm

Don't make Buckmaster or my previous favorite the Bushnell Legend. I am looking at 4-14 with mildots.
 

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When my AR15 in 243WSSM is used for daytime hunting it usually wears the Nightforce SHV 5-20x56 Scope. When night coyote hunting it wears a Pulsar N 960 Nightvision scope.
 

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Missed a groundhog today at 100 yds because I could not see the pig as the dot was so big. One of those fake Eotech red dots especially for 223. Things are going back to the old way so bad eyes can see some distance.
Have you checked to see if that is one of (the many) Eotech red dot scopes that do not hold a zero?? I've talked to several who used to own them. Some have taken advantage of a recall on them, and others just sold them.

Our club has 3 gun competitions once a month which are a lot of fun to watch, and Vortex, Nikon, Leupold all seem to be what they use. Usually variables within the 2-12x range. WD
 

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Yes

At 25 yards I am terrific. All shots in ragged hole. Just can't see well enough at 100 yds. Dot covers too much territory.
 

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So many good scopes to choose from. However, I find I have less and less patience for scopes that won't hold zero for any reason.

Mounts aside, I find I've gravitated toward Nightforce and Nikon Monarch and Sightrons and Weaver "T" scopes...but NOT Leupold anymore. (Not sure what the issues were with those Vari X - IIIs was, but I got tired of zero issues (in spite of shimming and epoxy bedding.
 

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IIRC, Leupold has not made VX-III scopes since 2008 or 2009 based on some VX-III and VX-3 scopes that I own.

I happen to like Zeiss scopes better than others, but I've never had any problems of any kind with any Leupold scope that I've owned. I guess I'm just lucky.
 
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